too awesome to the detriment of every other ship which is unfortunate because they have great potential to add something unique to the game of being a true multi-purpose ship.
Hopefully the re-balance will do this they should be a support ship at its heart not some uber battleship in a cruiser disguise.

However i feel in order for this to happen and still remain viable the cost of the ship must be brought in line with T2 cruisers or thereabout.

Because a battleship can totally apply full "1000" DPS on almost any ship and zip around at a couple of km/s with a tiny sig and a +80km range.


Most complaints I have seen about tech 3's is that killing them is bloody hard and that one of the best ways to kill another tech 3 is by using another tech 3.

I'm glad Falcon isn't going to balance T3 ships because that statement doesn't seem to reflect 10 years of experience with pvp...

What a ridiculous notion.

You're not automatically a "PvPer" if you undock. Likewise you can easily be in the game without being a "PvP" player. Not being a PvP player does not = unable to have players kill you.

In real life I'm not a mugger, but someone can still mug me (orami?)

Tech 3's are too good at too many things, they make T2 cruisers almost pointless.

Tech 3 should be jack of all trades, but master of none.

Tech 2 should be specialized into specific roles and be the best at performing those roles.

To me, arguing about the cost of T3 and T2 in the current state and using that as a reason for gap is pointless, as the current price of the ships reflects the ships current performance. If you were to boost Tech 2 the market would soon start to reflect those changes and the prices of those ships would go up.

Must be cool to be a fittings expert... Congratulations.

Should we get back on topic?

You're not going to get all 3 of those things on a T3 Strat Cruiser either so holding that up as the "Pi+¿ce de r+¬sistance" is faulty at best.

I don't think I've ever seen a T3 Cruiser with 1000 DPS with +80km range (applied dps otherwise it doesn't matter at all).

It's a trade off to fit these for 1000 DPS. To do so you lose some of the mobility (there goes the + km/s) and a LOT of the range you speak of. At that point you have to be very specific about how you engage in them otherwise you can't apply much of that paper DPS.

You can brick tank them like a mofo (600k EHP proteus comes to mind) but you're relegated to brick tackle or bait tackle (or some other non-DPS and non-mobile role as you're fat and slow at that point).

You can make them cloaky and scanny - but in order to do that you, again, lose some of the tank and gank. 1 v1 in that scenario against some unlucky PVE fit ship will go in the T3 favor. But cloaky/scanny T3 against a comparably piloted PVP setup won't fair so well.

Point being that T3 is not the "Easy Butan" that people make them out to be. One of the huge benefits of the platform is the ability to customize and in that customization lies it's strengths. But that customization doesn't make the ship unbeatable or even the best choice for all engagements.

Add in the bonuses from gang links etc etc and that changes the argument(s) fairly significantly but then that's a separate topic.

I trained an alt for PI.
Nerf PI.